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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 07:41:00 -
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Whiners, please contract your stuff and GTFO, make some bandwidth room for those who will gladly take your places now.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher *snip*
Smart man is smart, listen to smart man. Oh wait, all they'll see is "BLAH BLAH BLAH EVE ISNT SRS BUSINESS" and react in anger.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Maybe I am being overly skeptical, but it would not be the fist time something like this has happend to a game, and as long as we live in the tragic profit driven society we do, it will not be the last.
Way to reach for making the gaming world seem like an ever evolving tragedy. Drama much? If you're honestly taking this topic that seriously you should probably seek therapy. Or sunlight.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Forum Guy
I think micro-transactions is just a shoddy business practice.
Yes, ways to make profit which make tons of profit is very, very bad for business. Wait what?
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher well, we already have SP for money - it's called a "subscription".
Anyway, if people genuinely think that a few microtransaction options (especially if this is about as far as CCP are willing to go with them) will "alienate the core player base" and cause a loss of business, I think they're overestimating just how much of the core player base actually give a damn.
Most of the players don't post on the forums complaining about trivial changes that they feel certain are killing the game. Most of the players, in fact, couldn't care less. They just get on with it and play and enjoy expansions and options and new stuff and don't whine constantly about inconsequentia and in short are reasonable human beings.
Maybe a handful of people would quit over this. So the hell what? If the mere presence of microtransactions in a balanced and fair way is enough to drive them away from the game, then they obviously didn't like the game very much in the first place.
There is nothing wrong with microtransactions provided that they are balanced. This PLEX for Remap idea is balanced. End of story.
Voice of reason, prepare to be quashed!
But seriously, I love you man.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nullity *snip*
I'm all for CCP increasing revenue's and market share at the expense of dumping off the elitist ****s who do nothing but **** on and complain about the product they provide. If they short term a 500% income boost and long term it falls of to still 200% higher than it was, erm, well, uhh....yeah that'd be stupid.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Cupio Mortem on 07/10/2010 11:44:34
Originally by: Nullity
Essentially, CCP is attempting to give EVE mass appeal. This is dangerous because EVE's my game and I want to keep thinking I look cool when I talk about it.
Fixed
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nullity Edited by: Nullity on 07/10/2010 11:47:51
Originally by: Cupio Mortem Edited by: Cupio Mortem on 07/10/2010 11:44:34
Originally by: Nullity
Essentially, CCP is attempting to give EVE mass appeal. This is dangerous because EVE's my game and I want to keep thinking I look cool when I talk about it.
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Can you address what I'm saying? Think about it. What competition does EVE realistically have? I can't think of any similar MMORPGs. You could give me reasons why adding microtransactions won't remove EVE from its niche market, but instead you just pulled out an internet meme.
I'd be willing to concede that I don't really know for sure if microtransactions will hurt EVE's niche appeal. I personally think they will, but this largely depends on how this is all handled. I just have little trust in CCP handling this well.
Well, my pulling an internet meme seems to have possibly helped you see a little of the light, so I regret nothing.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
Originally by: Stitcher This, ladies and gentlemen, is a classic example of the overreaction that has typified this thread.
CCP is a business. They are a Corporation. Their function is to make money.
Ok so their sole goal is money... how about CCP ransom your char for 50Ç... pay or they will delete it... Hell make that SPs related... the more you have higher will be the ransom...
MARK MY WORDS, ASA THEY MAKE THE 1ST MICROTRANSACTION WITH INGAME ITEMS THERE WILL BE NOTHING STOPPING THEM... AND IN THE MOMENT THAT HAPPENS I WILL GLADLY CANCEL ALL MY 3 ACCOUNTS.
Why wait?
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.07 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius Edited by: Aelius on 07/10/2010 14:42:51
Originally by: Jodi Goulsti I bought a few PLEXes with my USD, sold them in game for ISK and used the ISK to buy a set of +5 implants.
$ = PLEX = ISK = SP
I bought a few PLEXes with my USD, sold them in game for ISK and used the ISK to buy a character.
$ = PLEX = ISK = SP
Do you people want to quit now?
Even so... did you get all the skills in that char that you wanted?! Strategically placed exactly as u imagined?! Could you change his name, corp history?!
because i have a few characters to sell famous for Jita scams and corp theft named "imaloser" "isuckballs" being in corps like "hellokitty" "World Of Warcraft" and "Electronic Arts"...
Will you take your ****ing pills already?!
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.08 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher *snip*
People, you need to pay this man, he's a saint.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.08 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tashiie
Originally by: Stitcher <snip>
I keep trying to read your posts but I think I'll give you a bucket instead.
So you can put all that foam you're making in it.
Making perfect sense always sends people into insult mode, rather than admitting he has a point. Why is that? Oh right...because you're all ****tarded *******s (thank you word filter) who's **** don't stink..
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.08 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tashiie
Originally by: Cupio Mortem <slash>
Insult? I'm attempting to improve sanitation.
I've always been told that people who use swear words are simply people attempting to speak with authority. But failing.
Funny, I've always been told people who think not swearing is something to flaunt as a merit badge were ****tarded? Seems true enough.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.08 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tashiie
Originally by: Cupio Mortem <slash>
Insult? I'm attempting to improve sanitation.
I've always been told that people who use swear words are simply people attempting to speak with authority. But failing.
Originally by: Tashiie
Originally by: Cupio Mortem <smash>
Is that so? Please link me your case studies in these subjects. I am very eager to see your work in determining your conclusion for the work you are so eager to speak about.
And done!
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.08 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tashiie
Originally by: Cupio Mortem <slash>
Dear me, it seems you've neglected to provide the project I requested. I'll be sure to check back later to see if you've added it. Probably not though since your posts lack content.
Thank you for the sequel.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.08 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Nullity Prince Kobol, the difference between PLEXes as they are now, and what they're going to become is the things they buy now were obtained through normal, in-game means. When you buy the PLEX, you only buy a promise of gametime. In the future, when you'll buy a PLEX, you'll buy a promise of gametime or a remap. And that off-schedule remap is something that is spawned solely because of an out-of-game monetary transaction. It wasn't produced in-game.
Unless you buy the PLEX with ingame currency. .../argument.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.08 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Prince Kobol Thats better.. no silly talking about CCP lying etc etc etc.
Okay, I can understand your concerns about items being introduced that were not created in game. I get that bit and if is a fair concern.
However, so long as people can obtain item x without having to spend rl money to do so then I see no problem.
The concern is also more or less the exact opposite: that they'll move towards a more classical MT model of actually buying in-game stuff for money (which, in spite of the ignorant comments from some) is not what we have right now.
Rather, under such a model, people can obtain item x without having to spend in-game resources to do so. No ISK, no minerals, nothing whatsoever ù cough up the cash and suddenly the item just appears, bypassing the entire S&I and market part of the game.
Know what else? You can use IN GAME isk to buy those same items, like, wtf!
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.08 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia àbut then what?
Then Eve gets purchased by Blizzard and changes its name to WOW and BECOMES FREE TO PLAY AND BECOMES SOLELY RUN BY MICROTRANSACTIONS AND WAHHAHAHARRRGBGFLGGBGLGB RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
...quit being such a dramatic **** and trying to overemphasize a bull**** argument and go back to playing internet spaceships and shutting the **** up. THAAANKS!
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.09 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Atius Tirawa
Originally by: Orange Lagomorph I disagree, Atius.
Officially sanctioned trading of real money for ISK and ISK for characters allows people to purchase advantages for themselves without breaking the EULA. Otherwise, plenty of people would still do it... they'd just do it illegally, through eBay and ISK farmers. Some probably still do, but the official sanction and safe transfer procedures keep that to a dull roar.
Only difference is that one is sanctiond, the other is not. Its about who makes the money in the end. The final effect is the same.
Don't worry, Atius, Orange would argue with a fart. If there's a noise, there's a counter point to be had!
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.09 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nullity Are you suggesting the final effect of officially sanctioned RMTs is the same as officially sanctioned microtransactions? Because it isn't, and the reason why it isn't has been said many, many times.
Reality and whatever it is you have decided to accept as reality (which apparently includes not having any sort of job) are very different things.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.09 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 After 2 fail expansions EVE subsciption numbers did not grow , so they try to squeeze money in diffrent way.
As far as I see it, people like you quitting (if you ever actually followed through on the "threat") would help it grow far better than any expansion. "A game with less *****ing?! SIGN ME UP!" ...I wish.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.11 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hemp Invader Eve is going down on a slippery road. I may still be a student and still learning about how businesses are run, but I tell you this: Micro Transactions may lead yield more income on the short term, but on the long term they will kill the game. I really hope the CEO reads this and when I say reads, I mean understands this. Micro Transactions bore people(psichologicaly proven). Why? Let's say you're rich, you buy skillpoints whatever and you're king of the hill, you play the game for 2-3 months, get bored(eve bores people, am i right?) then quit. Now you will find yourself in a position after 1-2 years where you won't have more ppl to pay with micro transactions. Eve's strength lies within the already existing customers. Sure, you get more money NOW, but you will loose in the long run. And if you didn't understand this, you should get your head out of your ****ing ass.
Hypothetical bull**** like this is the entire problem. NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MICROTRANS FOR SP, SHIPS, OR ANYTHING, just for REMAPS and vanity items. REMAPS AND VANITY ITEMS. REMAPS...VANITY ITEMS. Should I keep repeating that to help some people remember? IF they went to full on microtransactions down the road, it wouldn't be for years. I support it for what they want to use them for, entirely, because why the **** not? Remaps make marginal difference to training times as it is, and if they combine that with removal of learning skills, I'd be SOO HAPPY. The remaps would be every bit as accessible as the no-job "I grind 150mil isk a day" pilots as the job-holding "I buy PLEX so I can lose 20 CNRs a week) people. Linking the valid idea to an endless string of hypotheticals is like believing in 2012. Oh sh- did I go there?
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.12 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Shaalira D'arc
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I'm making a stand, i'm flat out refusing to pay for eve and i will continue to use plexs until CCP get their arse in gear.
Not sure if troll.
Anyways, I don't think CCP would complain about this form of 'protest.' Not in the slightest.
He's both stupid AND troll, one of the coveted positions of forum life.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.12 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis I believe that it is traditional for you to blame some meddling kids at this stage.
Seriously though, I rather think you'll still get your remaps, as there was nothing stated that the proposal was withdrawn. If anything the PLEX remaps will probably be restricted to 1/year or even just 1 ever, or some such.
Maybe even to 1 per plex.
Oh wait.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.10.12 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ebisu Kami *snip*
Did you violently fail reading comprehension tests as a kid, too?
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